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| Security over women's rights in Afghanistan |
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| Written by Charles |
| Monday, 08 February 2010 19:32 |
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This is a cross post from Political Duo-ble. We have been repeatedly rammed down our throats the rationale for supporting the invasion of Afghanistan – the myth that this is a ‘war against terror’. A war to eradicate and stop terrorists from destabilising the region and the world. A war against Islamic fundamentalisms advocated by the likes of groups such as Al Qaeda and the Taliban that preaches extremist beliefs and practices including those against women.
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Sounds like a worthwhile post as always Charles...but the link didn't come up for me.
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Tue 09 Feb 2010 01:47:27 EST
Really pisses me off when militaristic governments riddled w/ gas pipeline obsessed, energy-driven, armaments profiteers and the like use the justification of protecting women & children's rights to invade, occupy and wage profiteering conflicts.
I noted how activist the young audience on Q&A were last night...from memory, not a single reference to WAR & INVASION. Just ME ME ME...& Nanny State WEDGE stuff. What a pathetic society we've become: While the US has always appear to provide a cover of humanitarian intervention in its overseas involvement such as introducing laws devoting 175 million into combating violence against women worldwide over a five year period (AFP 2010), this is a pitiful amount as compared to the billions being channelled into counter-terrorism, war and other military purposes. In its 2011 budget, the Obama administration increased aid to Pakistan by 1.2 billion which is ‘aimed at bolstering war on internal militants’. Funds catering to training, equipment and other assistance to foreign militaries would also increase to 500 million (Baldor 2010). To add it all up, the administration is seeking approval from Congress of up to 741.2 billion for its military budget of which it consists of: ‘… $548.9 billion for the “baseline” budget plus $159.3 billion to pay for “overseas contingency operations,” mainly the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq [my emphasis]. And, by the way, [US Defense Secretary Robert Gates] he says, tack on another $33 billion to the current year’s budget, to pay for the 30,000 extra troops (and all their supplies, weapons, and so forth) that President Obama is sending to Afghanistan’ (Kaplan 2010). The increased funding not only makes a mockery of Obama’s Nobel peace prize but also reflects US continued military dominance in its interventions. It also speaks volume of American exceptionalism and its emphasis on traditional security rather than women rights. (from the article Charles linked above) Thnx joni for fixing the link. Top topic Charles. I tell ya, sometimes I despair. The loonies really are running the asylum. I can just imagine all the tears flowing in sitting rooms a decade or two from now when people see the many docos and movies on these bloody wars. Too late. Too bloody late. Just like Vietnam, Cambodia & Laos. And the profiteers laugh all the way to their graves. N' 3
Tue 09 Feb 2010 09:57:48 EST
Very good link Charles.
Loved this nice before-and-after summary from a couple of Afghan women activists: "Under the Taliban, women were confined to their homes. They were not allowed to work or attend school. They were poor and without rights. They had no access to clean water or medical care, and they were forced into marriages, often as children. Today, women in the vast majority of Afghanistan live in precisely the same conditions, with one notable difference: they are surrounded by war. The conflict outside their doorsteps endangers their lives and those of their families." Bet they're sure glad we stepped-in to help. And yes, nasking, it does stick in the craw a bit to hear "protection of women's rights" now being raised as a justification for the war. You're absolutely right: These guys have no shame. 4
Wed 10 Feb 2010 10:17:44 EST
Nasking,
Really man....BORING! Same old tirades backed but what else, THEORY and EMOTION....Don't you ever get tired of spouting the same old talking points...... ![]() 5
Wed 10 Feb 2010 10:20:48 EST
Too funny, coming from our International Man of Sophistry.
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Wed 10 Feb 2010 11:58:53 EST
I heard new talks the other week on how Osama B.L was still such a high priority and new plans to catch him.
#....Don't you ever get tired of spouting the same old talking points......5 wow that fits perfectly with the Osama statement too 7
Wed 10 Feb 2010 12:26:30 EST
"Don't you ever get tired of spouting the same old talking points"
Nope, I get bored of faux Spartans who stand on LOFTY hill promote wars and spend valuable taxpayer's moneys on war profiteers whilst moaning about public services. N' 8
Wed 10 Feb 2010 13:35:24 EST
Good point Hexx. The convenient invisible man Osama Bin Laden...
they seek him here...spend bloody heaps...they seek him there...cut back on school, roads, bridges, hospital maintenance...those damn Yank profiteers & their Coalition of the CONNED seek him everywhere...and funnel the bucks to the top-end-of-town...is he in Heaven?...more likely a grave or a Saudi safehouse...or is he in Hell?...ya mean the Hell the soldiers & citizens in war go thru?...that damned ever ELUSIVE Osama Bin (Media Empire adored) Laden. N' 9
Wed 10 Feb 2010 13:42:29 EST
And good points Hexx and Nas'. Imagine..all those $$s down the gurgler compared with the homeless off the streets, into housing and contributing to the economy.
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Wed 10 Feb 2010 14:07:21 EST
Imagine..all those $$s down the gurgler compared with the homeless off the streets, into housing and contributing to the economy. Now if you could only apply that same logic to the hundreds of millions you send around the world in the form of aid or the resources spent caring for those who wash up on your shores or overstay visas.... ![]() 11
Wed 10 Feb 2010 14:44:43 EST
spend valuable taxpayer's moneys on war profiteers whilst moaning about public services. Please....since when are you worried about "taxpayers" money..give me a break already.... ![]() 12
Wed 10 Feb 2010 14:46:01 EST
"Please....since when are you worried about "taxpayers" money..give me a break already..."
as in the tax dollars of rich dicks who use inappropriate influence and offshore tax havens and make mega-bucks from screwing workers, corruption and sending younguns to die needlessly so they can profit and fulfill their bigoted, religious fanatic desires...well, not at all. N' 13
Wed 10 Feb 2010 14:59:44 EST
Sparta. Firstly the aid is needed or else we end up with even bigger problems such as failed states. Domestically things have improved remarkably..for example, it is now recognised that homeless people need a roof over their heads and at least 2 changes of decent clothes. These are not 'handouts' but rather practical solutions to help these people re-enter the workforce. You cannot attend a job interview unshaven, dressed in rags with a mouth full of rotting teeth.
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Wed 10 Feb 2010 14:59:54 EST
yeah but lets not forget this is all over one man that is smarter then the forces chasing him.
I can see now why many believed in the war if they still believe it was about this Osama bloke. Besides I bet if Australia was chasing him they would of caught him years ago. 15
Wed 10 Feb 2010 15:04:18 EST
"Besides I bet if Australia was chasing him they would of caught him years ago."
Not if they had Downer's department searching...apparently they missed 300 million going from the Australian Wheat Board riddled w/ Nats & such into the hands of their dreaded enemy Saddam...builder of "weapons of mass destruction". N' 16
Wed 10 Feb 2010 16:35:44 EST
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