Comments for Barnaby at http://www.blogocrats.com , comment 1 to 25 out of 20 comments http://www.blogocrats.com Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:47:15 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9445 It's certainly a thought Caney. A smack on the wrist for Hockey being a naughty boy for 1. supporting Turnbull on the ETS issue 2. then running against both Abbott and Turnbull. Then throw into the mix a media tart such as Barnaby. Hockey surely must have had to do some substantial swallowing of pride to maintain a front bench possie with Abbott as leader and Joyce taking away the headlines from him. - Min Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:38:27 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9443 Min, Here's a different slant on why the Mad Abbott might have done it ... [quote]The appointment of Joyce as finance spokesman was a bizarre call by the Liberal leader. It was clearly designed to undermine the role of Treasury spokesman Joe Hockey[/quote] Paul Howes (National Secretary of the Australian Workers Union), [i]Daily Telegraph[/i], 07 February 2010 http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/its-all-adding-up-to-a-disaster/story-e6frezz0-1225827405219 - Caney Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:02:34 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9439 Oh deary me Evan. I'm supposed to be in serious mode, then I read your inputs. Re the Howard-formula..amazing how quickly he disappeared, but maybe he was always just fluff and feathers. And speaking of fluff and feathers..Hockey is well, well what is Hockey? Apart from looking cute in shrek ears and saying I'll save ya Fiona and more recently in a tiara and ballet skirt (why? I don't know). - Min Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:21:27 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9437 At least Abbott knows what he wants to do: Return the Nation to John Howard's version of the 1950's. Hockey wouldn't have a clue what he'd do, except (perhaps) to wolf-down a few more sausage-rolls while waiting for somnething like an idea to enter his head. So far as the Libs are concerned, it's the Devil they know spouting what they regard as the tried-and-true the Howard Formula (even though that formula was soundly rejected by the electorate in 2007), as opposed to the Devil they don't trust. You never know, Hockey might turn-out to be be a Wet, or at least mildly Moist. And that would never do (at least according to Minchin and the rest of the Uglies currently running the show). So far as the electorate is concerned, they couldn't give a toss who's leading the disorganised and self-contradictory rabble. Despite a couple of rogue Newspolls, Labour is clearly in the box-seat to hand the Libs their arses on a plate at the next Federal election. The only question is: How many Colaition seats are going to fall? - Evan Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:01:38 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9432 I think that depends on the severity of the loss Min. If they lose a lot of seats and don't manage to hold the fort then Abbott will be roadkill as he said, on the other hand if they do manage to minimise the loss then I'm sure Abbott will lead onto the election after that. - Mobius Ecko Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:40:05 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9429 Jane the consensus seems to be that Abbott will hold the fort and minimise the Coalition's losses so that they can have a fighting chance at the following election. Whether Abbott heads this post-election team is another story entirely..just a guess, it will be Hockey. - Min Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:27:06 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9426 Barnaby seems to emulate that other Joyce with a spot of stream of consciousness falling out of his mouth. Min, the thought of the MM becoming PM is very scary indeed. I hope we don't live to see the day! - jane Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:13:19 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9399 Plus Caney, you can always be assured of publicity when Barnaby's involved. - Min Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:57:46 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9398 Jane, I think that people should think carefully about considering Abbott as a future PM. And I wouldn't have said the same about Nelson, Turnbull or even Hockey. Abbott has some fairly inappropriate attitudes which makes one think that it would be a toss up about who he would support - The Pope in Rome or the Australian people. Abbott's strict Catholicism could have implications re separation of church and state. - Min Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:35:51 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9397 Abbott only gave Joyce the job because he's a fellow climate change denier. - Caney Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:11:56 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9385 I think he has a sideline in rosary sales and hymen protection, Min. - jane Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:40:55 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9379 A double dip rececession anyone? Abbott is a self-confessed economics nuff-nuff and so it seems that it will be left to Joe Hockey to carry the Coalition's economics policies. Just thinking, Abbott isn't into economics, Abbott isn't into environmental issues..obviously shown no interest whatsoever in the military. So what exactly is it that Abbott does apart from jogging in finch smugglers and wearing lycra? - Min Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:49:41 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9377 flat out trying to get prepared for work trip to Manila. so apologies for no post. will try to get a new one up later. - joni Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:33:50 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9376 Well, you've gotta hand it to the Libs for being equal opportunity employers: They clearly don't discriminate on the grounds of ability. What other explanation could their possibly be for appointing a cretin to such a position. It's like something out of Being There. - Evan Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:25:22 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9374 Via Crikey at: http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/02/04/how-many-jobs-will-barnaby-joyce-cost-australia/ [quote]“Looks like Barnaby got away with it,” Nick Minchin said to colleagues last night, referring to the shadow Finance Minister’s extraordinary effort at the National Press Club yesterday at lunchtime.[/quote] [quote]It means that in Abbott, Joe Hockey and Barnaby Joyce, the Coalition has the weakest economic line-up in modern political history. When Hockey is your most substantial figure, you’re in deep trouble. Abbott is notoriously economically illiterate and has no experience in an economic portfolio, and Joyce is an outright economic irrationalist.[/quote] Quite correct, it's one thing to see Barnaby as the buffoon, but another thing when you're an economist considering investing in Australia. Then Barnaby's antics start to take on a serious note. - Min Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:17:01 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9373 Jane, had an accountant like that a couple of years ago. Stuffed up our tax and then tried to charge us an extra $125.00 due to his stuff up. - Min Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:57:44 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9371 I'm very glad Barnaby isn't doing our tax. - jane Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:03:04 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9364 Tom, agreed especially with regard to Coles and Woolies. On the hills around there are macadamias, bananas and avocados yet my mum down in Hawthorn has to pay $4.00 for one single avocado. A scenic tour around your local Coles or Woolies will reveal Imported from... - Min Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:20:51 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9363 That may have some influence Min, although I heard somewhere (if I find thetime, I'll look it uP) that Australia currently has the capacity to grow almost twice as much food as we require (numbers are quite fuzzy too lol) I still blame Coles/Woolies >:( - Tom R Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:12:59 +0100 http://www.blogocrats.com/index.php/top-menu-sections/topics-australian-politics/493-barnaby-#comment-9362 Tom, Australia's foreign aid is woeful compared with other countries. Plus we lack the philanthopists such as in the US, notable standout being Dick Smith. We have a few well regarded people prepared who think not of national borders but of the welfare of all, the Rev Tim Costello comes to mind. Otherwise, Australia's effort is minimal at best. From your link: [quote]Australia had the highest food inflation in the Western world, he said,[/quote] Just maybe Australia would now be far better off if we hadn't pandered to the development lobby, maybe there would still be cherries growing in Wandin. That's what happens when you carve up all your arable land for housing developments, you have to then start importing food which adds substantially to the cost in the average person's shopping trolley. And Australia is the best (aka worst) example of this as we have so little land suitable for growing staple food crops. - Min Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:46:50 +0100